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Postby Kdub085 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:59 pm

Ive never had the pleasure of driving the rs3's. the review I posted above was from another driver on my local FOCUS forum.

These tires are pretty damn loud tho and they have a mean growl! I was driving last night with very minimal background noise and it was all I could do not to laugh at how ridiculously noisy these things are.. the price of having a RACECAR I guess.

I'll give free rides on dec3 if anyone wants some first hand laughs.

On a side note I was finally able to go for a spirited ride down Ehern cutoff today... all I can say traction and ride quality wise, these tires are NIGHT AND DAY over my Goodyears. At one point in the last couple of corners heading towards 52 I was in 4th gear doing 70+ and the tires didn't sequel or even come close to losing traction. The tires are super responsive, turn-in feel is surprisingly firm and consistent. My FWD torque steer also seems to be lessened. All plus's in my book.

The next Autocross event can't come fast enough so I can finally see what these bad boys can really do.


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Postby Indian srt-4 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:43 pm

i think i will be buying theses tires soon. However, in the 225/45/17 size.
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Postby twistedwankel » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:20 pm

When he wins his class you will all run them. I know you guys.
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Postby Kdub085 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:24 am

After only running one event with these new Federal tires I can say without a doubt they are levels above any "stock" summer tire your car is going to come with. I'm not quite sure how they will ultimately compare to say someone running RE71's or RS3's but for the price point I was able to purchase these at for my wheel setup I can't complain at all. Steering response, handling and grip all added up to a whole new feel for my car which kinda threw me for a loop. I'm going to have to re-learn how to drive on tires that actually work now and learn not to overdrive them like I was doing on my old Goodyear eagles.

Bottom line. Score +1 for the RS-RR's.

One side note I think I'm going to try to find a second set of rims to get these mounted on and get another set of street tires for my car... dunno if I can live with how loud these are for street driving. Anyone have an extra set of 18x8 5x108's laying around?


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Postby Evil MS3 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:10 am

LOL Yeah, they're loud on the street...even louder on the highway. I've made two trips to the Tail of the Dragon on mine and you have to have the music up a tad more than usual...
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Postby twistedwankel » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:26 pm

Hmmmm. Keith might be the first ever car banned for excessive tire noise :lol:
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Postby Redstangone » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:33 am

I think I'm going to get a set of those for the Mustang

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Postby Solar » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:20 pm

Indian srt-4 wrote:i think i will be buying theses tires soon. However, in the 225/45/17 size.
Let me know where you can buy them in that size, I cant find that size in stock anywhere.
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Postby Kdub085 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:14 pm

Solar wrote:
Indian srt-4 wrote:i think i will be buying theses tires soon. However, in the 225/45/17 size.
Let me know where you can buy them in that size, I cant find that size in stock anywhere.

eBay.


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Postby Solar » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:03 pm

Kdub085 wrote:
Solar wrote:
Indian srt-4 wrote:i think i will be buying theses tires soon. However, in the 225/45/17 size.
Let me know where you can buy them in that size, I cant find that size in stock anywhere.

eBay.


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Postby Kdub085 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:07 pm

I see what you did there... but yes, eBay! Got mine from eBay w/ 2nd day shipped in perfect new condition... from a legitimate tire company of course, not some random person


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Postby Loren » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:08 pm

So, what legit tire company? That's more relevant than just 'eBay'. You bought FROM xxx THROUGH eBay.
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Postby Kdub085 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:14 pm

Found'em from this guy https://www.carshoez.com/

Here's a link to the 225/45/17's from another dealer.

I searched "225/45/17 Federal"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/252622723084


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Postby Kdub085 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:33 pm

Federal RS-RR update... shy of 1,000mi with daily driving & 4 auto-x events (~22laps) all in HOT Florida.... The front tires as you can see are showing a lot of wear since the Focus is FWD. I probably should have rotated them a little earlier, I didn't realize it was that far gone in the fronts... ;(

Dunno if I should be mad at myself for not rotating them before the dog track or happy I didn't chew up the rears too...

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Postby Loren » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:59 pm

Doesn't look like you're too late. Rotate them to the rear, very little wear happens back there. The fronts will catch up.
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Postby Kdub085 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:33 pm

Well that makes me feel better.


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Postby Loren » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:39 pm

If they're wearing evenly, you don't have a problem. If they're wearing significantly more on the inside or outside, then you might not have enough tread on the more worn side after the front/rear wear balances to make it worth flipping them on the wheel to get full usage of all of the tread. We did that very thing on one of the sets we ran on the FASTiva.
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Postby Kdub085 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:39 pm

Loren wrote:If they're wearing evenly, you don't have a problem. If they're wearing significantly more on the inside or outside, then you might not have enough tread on the more worn side after the front/rear wear balances to make it worth flipping them on the wheel to get full usage of all of the tread. We did that very thing on one of the sets we ran on the FASTiva.
The fonts and rears both appear to be wearing evenly, that is to say, both the fronts look the same and the rears as well... I dunno why the rears are wearing everywhere except the tires edge, maybe need to get adjustable end links and caber arms...? The last alignment was within OEM spec.


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Postby Loren » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:45 pm

There's just no weight back there. As long as they're wearing evenly, save the edges for the front! You could lower rear tire pressure to get them to roll over more, but if you're happy with the way the car feels, I wouldn't even think about it. Lowering rear tire pressure will make the rear grip more and also effectively soften the overall rear "suspension" (think of your tire as an adjustable spring rate). These are things you don't generally want in a FWD car, anyway.
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